Here’s an interesting video by Matt Cutts explaining how PageRank updates work. Matt Cutts, like many other SEO professionals, states that PR updates happen every 3 months or four times per year. Unfortunately, it’s not consistent and I wouldn’t hold my breath for the next update.
I hope this video will stop the PR update questions. Thanks for sharing this Frank.
TheDev
Aug 31st, 2010
He said in the video its like a cron job set periodically like 4 times a year, yet in the article you say its not consistant. I’d say that’s pretty consitant.
Saying that, we’ve not had one since April and now its NOT consistant with past updates.
I agree with you tie dyed. Only problem is, many people rely on your PR to exchange links with you.
And if your site is 4-5 months old like ours, but has tons of relevant high quality links, we still don’t show a PR as the last PR update was right when the site launched, it is tough to explain to other site owners that we DO have a PR, Google just hasn’t updated it yet.
So from that stand point it is tough to wait out the PR update.
Truly right bro.. I had a site which is showing me like 2500 backlinks on my webmaster tool but i need to wait for the PR update to show people that I do have a PR
I’m in the same boat as you are right now. My site launched in May and I’ve got lots of great links, but no PR. I know everyone says “Don’t worry about PR…” But in the end, everyone looks at it. If we didn’t then why even have it available for folks to see. I update my site daily with new travel content and I do see small changes in my SERP, but it would still be helpful to know my PR. I wish Google would either update it more regularly or just get rid of it so you cannot see the PR on any sites.
I have been following quite a few sites, inputting their domain name into tools/etc. and finding that no sites, even pr4-5 with 9 years online, and new content being published quite often, aren’t even getting those results. More like 3-6 days per index.
Do YOU find that age of site plays a factor in rank?
I know it is a highly debated topic. From my understanding it DOES in fact play a role, but after a year or two, the strength your competitors have over you drops dramatically.
Personally, I think that constantly investingating the things that Google checks in their algoritm and trying to manipulate rankings can be really counterproductive. It’s better to concentrate on building content and links and not check anything until you have at least ten pages of solid content.
Andrew @ Blogging Guide
Aug 30th, 2010
I hope this video will stop the PR update questions. Thanks for sharing this Frank.
TheDev
Aug 31st, 2010
He said in the video its like a cron job set periodically like 4 times a year, yet in the article you say its not consistant. I’d say that’s pretty consitant.
Saying that, we’ve not had one since April and now its NOT consistant with past updates.
So what on earth is happening?
Frank Jovine
Aug 31st, 2010
I agree as stated in the article, it’s not consistent at all.
Tie Dyed Shop
Aug 31st, 2010
I do not worry about page rank anymore. I do though worry about traffic, links, and organic ranking, and sales.
John Mattar
Aug 31st, 2010
I agree with you tie dyed. Only problem is, many people rely on your PR to exchange links with you.
And if your site is 4-5 months old like ours, but has tons of relevant high quality links, we still don’t show a PR as the last PR update was right when the site launched, it is tough to explain to other site owners that we DO have a PR, Google just hasn’t updated it yet.
So from that stand point it is tough to wait out the PR update.
TechDiffuse
Sep 1st, 2010
Truly right bro.. I had a site which is showing me like 2500 backlinks on my webmaster tool but i need to wait for the PR update to show people that I do have a PR
Frank Jovine
Sep 1st, 2010
Just keep on publishing good content and concentrate on organic traffic.
Bill Cooper
Sep 1st, 2010
John,
I’m in the same boat as you are right now. My site launched in May and I’ve got lots of great links, but no PR. I know everyone says “Don’t worry about PR…” But in the end, everyone looks at it. If we didn’t then why even have it available for folks to see. I update my site daily with new travel content and I do see small changes in my SERP, but it would still be helpful to know my PR. I wish Google would either update it more regularly or just get rid of it so you cannot see the PR on any sites.
Frank Jovine
Sep 2nd, 2010
Bill,
This update is a little behind and I hope for all of us that it comes this week.
hanif
Sep 2nd, 2010
I hope this video will stop the PR update questions. Thanks for sharing this Frank.
Falcao
Sep 2nd, 2010
Thanks for sharing this. I still love PR thing. Waiting for PR is something that makes me suffer. However good content is still the priority.
John Mattar
Sep 3rd, 2010
Bill – We just have to continue to do our best and keep trying to get those inbound links.
In the end, if some days/weeks I have trouble linking, I just work on something else.
Hopefully we will see an update this month.
Keep your fingers crossed!
John Mattar
Sep 3rd, 2010
Looks like they are doing the update right now.
My site as well as almost every competitor of mine shows PR of N/A when I know many sites as well as mine is not a N/A
hmm hmm
Frank Jovine
Sep 3rd, 2010
John,
I am seeing no activity on my side that indicates an update is in progress.
John Mattar
Sep 3rd, 2010
Does your google toolbar show PR?
All of my pages are showing nothing for PR.
Have I gotten excited for nothing
??
Frank Jovine
Sep 3rd, 2010
John,
I will check further to see if indeed there’s an update.
John Mattar
Sep 3rd, 2010
Also, when the update finally happens …
How long does it take to complete?
Frank Jovine
Sep 3rd, 2010
John,
It usually takes about 24 hours.
John Mattar
Sep 3rd, 2010
Now my PR bar is magically working.
Oh well
Disability Help
Sep 3rd, 2010
So, there is no set schedule for when PR is updated?
How often does a site get cached?
John Mattar
Sep 3rd, 2010
Cache depends on how often you update your site.
An active blog could get updated as often as 1-2 times a day.
My site gets indexed every 5-7 days on avg.
Frank Jovine
Sep 4th, 2010
John,
My content is updated immediately. If I publish an article, it’s indexed within 10 minutes.
mike
Sep 4th, 2010
I seen my PR drop from 4 to 2 this year the PR thing is driving me nuts.
Power Adapters
Sep 4th, 2010
Does anyone actually care about google PR anymore.
The only way I see it being of any benefit is of webmasters who are trying to sell links on their webpages and getting more $$$.
If PR was wiped out completely, a websites value would be far more real by proof of its content, search engine position and traffic.
Frank Jovine
Sep 4th, 2010
People do care regardless if it’s for selling links.
John Mattar
Sep 4th, 2010
That’s great your blog is cached that fast.
I knew sites indexed that fast, but always believed it was sites such as cnn and what not.
Frank Jovine
Sep 4th, 2010
John,
Once Google builds a great deal of trust towards a site, that site gets indexed immediately.
John Mattar
Sep 5th, 2010
Interesting
I have been following quite a few sites, inputting their domain name into tools/etc. and finding that no sites, even pr4-5 with 9 years online, and new content being published quite often, aren’t even getting those results. More like 3-6 days per index.
Clearly there ARE many other variables though.
Frank Jovine
Sep 5th, 2010
John,
There are other variables for sure, but Google keeps everything or almost everything under their hat.
John Mattar
Sep 5th, 2010
Yeah which makes the whole thing so tough.
Do YOU find that age of site plays a factor in rank?
I know it is a highly debated topic. From my understanding it DOES in fact play a role, but after a year or two, the strength your competitors have over you drops dramatically.
Any insight on this topic from your experiences?
Thanks
Frank Jovine
Sep 6th, 2010
John,
That can be debated and no matter how old a site is, it’s the content that makes the site popular.
John Mattar
Sep 6th, 2010
Yeah, true.
nicos@dog pet costume
Sep 7th, 2010
Personally, I think that constantly investingating the things that Google checks in their algoritm and trying to manipulate rankings can be really counterproductive. It’s better to concentrate on building content and links and not check anything until you have at least ten pages of solid content.